SexSwap
4.9.2002 no.244
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The market is on fire today!
Finally. Right not the nasdaq is up over 5% and I hope investors all
jump back in and show some confidence. It's a busy day here in the cave
since I have two old collegem, "Jock and Bruce" aka "Christopher
and David" flying in for a weekend of golf, cobras, UFC and boxing!
I only wish the weather would cooperate since it has been cloudy here
for a month. This week seems to be a week of a zillion news stories.
The news section today is a mile long. Kournikova and Penthouse, Google
IPO rumors, Child porn bills, massive porn study summaries, and even
a study that shows that Napster helped music sales! This week's trix
section is all over the map with brute force attacks revisited, security
scanning software, blogs again, Japanese enter words, anti ad blockers,
and thoughts on search engines, tgps, and more. We also have our first
new bottom ad buyer "REALGIRLSPORN.COM". They are now leasing
their entire content site to paysites...check out their ad and be sure
to ask for a free pass to see what they have to offer.
one with the show!
Hey! I heard a few folks
like "sanchy the wife" and "viginie the vixen",
just read the top of the newsletter because they find the middle section
of trix too technical. I'll be first to admit that some of those scripts
and code ideas fly way over my head too, but I still get a kick out
of them :) Did you know, the lower section of the newsletter is often
referred to by readers as the "hootenanny of hijinks"!
www.dictionary.com/search?q=hijinks&r=3
www.dictionary.com/cgi-bin/dict.pl?term=hootenanny&r=67
OK, actually no one has ever
referred to it as that...hee hee haaaa. But I refer to it as that. This
is where I wonder aimlessly between topics of boxing, cobras, webmaster
questions, and certainly "much a do about nothing". This week
I gotta talk about Tyson...have to read those interview? That guy is
a walking press magnet. He reminds me of the Sex Pistols....so raw and
out there...so close to exploding. Have you seen what he said to the
lady reporters this week? Wild stuff....and don't miss pictures of the
cobra Knott's show and other events....all in the lower section...no
tech talk..easily listening...pure banter and BS =)
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SEX SLAVES - THE ILLEGAL
EUOPREAN TRADE from sign_bldr
a shocking and sad story of the european underground trade in women
www.msnbc.com/news/725802.asp?pne=msn&cp1=1
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WHAT LEGAL DOCS DO I NEED
TO MAKE MY OWN CONTENT from Onestr8gee
Onestr8gee asks
I'd like to start producing my own content, What
permits or realeases might be required from the
models, being that I'm located in Orange County, CA.
And what kind of records am I required to keep?
guru-O-gif writes
I don't know the answer to this so I am hoping that if anyone knows
that you can email me and I will add your answers to next weeks letter
andy@lips.com I am assuming he would need model releases and proof of
age...is this correct and anything else? Any place on line where these
documents exist?
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BAG OF SALT TABLE O' TRIX
CONTENT
OPERA STRIPS THE LINK from
Nero
NESSUS SECURITY SCANNING SOFTWARE from Craig the Programmer
ANTI AD BUSTER from Lee
RE: BLOGS AND ONLY 14 YR OLD GIRLS WRITE IN JOURNALS from Nigel
RE: JAPANESE WORDS FOR ENTER from Eru
BRUTE FORCE ATTACKS REVISITED from Joe
WEB USEABILITY from Kurt
BEGINNING TGP TIPS from Jason
ARE SEARCH ENGINES DYING AS A SOURCE OF TRAFFIC from Steve
ALL THE PUBLICLY TRADED ADULT SITES LISTED ON HOOVER from Steve
SUBMISSION SITES? from Joe
IS THERE A WAY TO STOP AD BLOCKERS? from sign_bldr
QUESTIONS ON STARTING AN AFFILIATE PROGRAM from Alex
ALTA VISTA CHARGING FOR ADULT SITE SUBMISSION from Tara
MORE NEWS
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MASSIVE REPORT SAYS NO QUICK FIX TO KIDS AND PORN from Dan
www.nytimes.com/2002/05/02/technology/02CND-PORN.html?todaysheadlines
``Swimming pools can be dangerous for children,'' the authors wrote.
``To protect them, one can install locks, put up fences, and deploy
pool alarms. All of these measures are helpful, but by far the most
important thing that one can do for one's children is to teach them
to swim.''
OVERTURE OUTLOOK UNCLEAR
from Richard
www.ecommercetimes.com/perl/story/17557.html
HOUSE CHILD PORN BILL MEANT
TO GET AROUND SUPREME COURT from sign_bldr
www.msnbc.com/news/746272.asp?0bl=-0
YAHOO COPIES GOOGLE ANS OPENS
ADVICE SITE from sign_bldr
www.msnbc.com/news/745637.asp?0dm=A215B
VICE PRINCIPAL IN TROUBLE
FOR THONG CHECKS from sign_bldr
www.msnbc.com/local/wcau/a1182272.asp
FACTORY ORDERS ROSE AND JOBLESS
DECLINED from Richard
public.wsj.com/news/hmc/sb102034237339494640.htm
GOOGLE MOST LIKELY WILL IPO
news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/business/newsid_1405000/1405322.stm
ROUND 2 MORPHED CHILD PORN
from Charles
www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,52285,00.html?tw=wn_ascii
FREE ONLINE MUSIC BOOSTED
SALES from Richard
www.nytimes.com/2002/05/06/technology/06MUSI.html?todaysheadlines
$10M LAWSUIT OVER TENNIS
PICS from sgin_bldr
msn.espn.go.com/tennis/news/2002/0506/1378850.html
WORLD WILDLIFE FUND STOPS
WWF FROM USING NAME from Emma
www.canoe.ca/SlamWrestling/may6_name-ap.html
PRODUCTIVITY SURGES 8.6%
from Richard
public.wsj.com/news/hmc/sb1020774039440896040.htm
OVERSTOCK TRIES TO JUMPSTART
IPO MARKET from Richard
www.ecommercetimes.com/perl/story/17619.html
EU PLANS TO TAX INTERNET
SALES from Greg
smlnk.com/?3CS7DCCM
KOURNIKOVA SEEKS $10M DANAGES
FROM PENTHOUSE
espn.go.com/tennis/news/2002/0507/1379640.html
KOURNIKOVA DOES NOT ACCEPT
APOLOGY from Abe + sign_bldr
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msn.espn.go.com/tennis/news/2002/0507/1379640.html
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OPERA STRIPS THE LINK from Nero
Nero writes
I really agree aboutthe link underlining. Opera takes this out as well.
Without the line, ITS JUST TEXT
What is hypertext anyway?
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NESSUS SECURITY SCANNING
SOFTWARE from Craig the Programmer
Craig writes
The software is free and constantly updated by the security community....it's
called nessus
www.nessus.org
Basically you
install a nessus server on a linux box that keeps all the security check
plugins and also can be setup so you can allow remote access to scan
ips
(the cool thing is you can also restrict users on where they can scan...so
say if one of my clients was worried about security on his systems...I
could
give him access to scan ONLY his systems so I don't have to worry about
him
using me as a relay to scan other systems). It's very easy to setup
and
very easy to use....
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ANTI AD BUSTER from Lee
Lee writes
Thought this may be worth mentioning in the newsletter. Had a quick
play around with it and it seems to work well. And its free!
www.antiadbuster.com/
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RE: BLOGS AND ONLY 14 YR
OLD GIRLS WRITE IN JOURNALS from Nigel
Nigel writes
I do - under the guise of a 21 year old girl called Lara - which is
why
after 4 months of running my blog I am getting over 200 Search Engine
visitors every day now and rising at about 10-15 searches each and every
day. Helps that I use actual HTML to generate the pages and not PHP
or ASP
so everything is indexed by SE's. And the visitors seem to actually
enjoy the blog
aspect as they visit about 7-8 pages of the free site before leaving.
Damn straight! Why spend
$600 to "maybe" get listed at Yahoo. This week,
daily Yahoo search visits hit about 70 once Google re-spidered me last
week.
I think this method leads to long term sustainability of a site and
is the
perfect upsell point because the traffic is already qualified.
Isn't this why Amateur sites
work(ed) so well! They are real people, not
some cookie cutter blonde. Although they'd probably like to fuck the
blonde
more, they can identify with the Amateur because she's real and she's
not
out of their reach i.e she's an ordinary person having fun and people
want
to be amused as much as they want to get their rocks off.
Blogs build branding! And
that's your most valuable commodity. How many XXX
Cumshot sites have you visited? Can you actually remember the name of
any of
them? Or did they all blur into one? Could you ever recommend such a
site by
word of mouth? No, because they're all the same. A Blog or Amateur site
makes your site stand out from the rest because you have a name and
personality and if you exploit this kind of branding you're going to
end up
with a much more loyal visitor base.
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RE: JAPANESE WORDS FOR ENTER
from Eru
Eru writes
I dont know the chinese chracters for the one on the bottom left but
the one on the bottom right doesn't really mean 'sexy'. Try like "come
here" (koko kite or koko koi or (very unformal and submissive koko
kiyagare)
andy writes
(I sent Eru 4 pictures and asked him what I wrote)
can you tell me if any of these four mean "come here" ?? Or
what do they mean =) Can I use some of your comments in next weeks letter...this
is rather interesting and informative.
Eru writes
1: "leave/to leave" (as if I was leaving the house or some
building
2: not sure what the first character is
3: Japanese
4: come here
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BRUTE FORCE ATTACKS REVISITED
from Joe
Joe asks
I've been hit by some brute force attacks to get passwords. I have password
sentry which catches the multiple uses of passwords and suspends the
user/pass but that doesnt stop the assholes from actually getting the
passwords and posting them! I looked through past trix issues for help
but nobody seems to have posted an actual "fix". Do you know
if there is such a thing?
guru-O-gif writes
Joe sent in an email this week asking about Brute Force attacks. This
has been a popular topic over the years. I have compiled every BRUTE
FORCE topic I could find from the last 5 years of newsletters. This
link contains the following excellent stories
trix.sexswap.com/brute_force.htm
BRUTE FORCE HACKERS AND HOW
TO STOP THEM by Craig
MORE ON BRUTE ATTACKS AND SERVER SET UP by Stel
PENNYWISE 2.0 - PRO LEVEL CROOK CATCHING
BRUTE FORCE PASSWORD HACK BLOCKER by Antone
PRO-LEVEL BRUTE FORCE PROTECTION from Darren
PRO-LEVEL BRUTE FORCE PROTECTION from Interstel
PRO-LEVEL BRUTE FORCE PROTECTION from Rebel Hawk
HELP! BRUTE FORCE PASSWORD OR DOS ATTACK ADVICE NEEDED from D. Trees
COMPLETEWEB.NET REPSONDS TO D. TREES from Gary
IPROTECT FOR PASSWORD HACKS from Guru-O-Gif
MORE BRUTE FORCE IDEAS from Rebel Hawk
BRUTE FORCE AND DRAWBACK OF ERROR 403 from Interstel
ALTERNATIVE SOLUTION TO BRUTE FORCE ATTACK from Stephen
BRUTE FORCE ATTACKS IDEAS AND THOUGHTS from Darren
WHAT HAPPENS TO APACHE DURING A BRUTE FORCE ATTACK from Craig
trix.sexswap.com/brute_force.htm
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WEB USEABILITY from Kurt
I came across this site dedicated to improving usability on the web.
It offers quite a few detailed articles, and I thought you might be
interested in it.
www.useit.com/alertbox/
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BEGINNING TGP TIPS from Jason
Jason asks
if you have the time i was wondering if you could point us to a good
resource for submitting our tgp at: tgp.adultmatchdoctor.com we tried
adulthitkit and some of our few manual submissions and cant get in any
tgps at all. if you dont have time to reply i understand!
guru-O-gif writes
well I don't know too much about the TGP world. I have done a couple
of test posts and I can say this
1. the successfull tgp guys
I have met submit by hand
they claim it works better and they form a better relationship with
the
site
2. you must read and follow
the rules EXACTLY for the tgp site
you have to read their rules and even though they say it is optional...add
their banner to the page. every site is strict
3. it takes time
I submitted and the fastest took a week to add me. one never did since
I
think many are overwhelmed. you have to try until you find ones you
like
that take your submissions.
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ARE SEARCH ENGINES DYING
AS A SOURCE OF TRAFFIC from Steve
Steve writes
so...what do you think, Andy...is the SE dying as a source of traffic?
www.webmasterworld.com/forum10/963.htm
Here are two related links:
Overture Ends Deal With AOL
- Google in the Wings!
www.webmasterworld.com/forum6/913.htm
Alert! Google to Power AOL
Search
www.webmasterworld.com/forum6/915.htm
don't remember sending you
this link...it summarizes other ways to get traffic, so is related to
the demise of the se's:
Mostly Viral Top Traffic
Alternatives to Search Engines
www.webmasterworld.com/forum10/906.htm
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ALL THE PUBLICLY TRADED ADULT
SITES LISTED ON HOOVER from Steve
www.hoovers.com/industry/description/0,2205,6150,00.html
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SUBMISSION SITES? from Joe
Joe asks
Just looking for an opinion on search-engine submit services. Now I'm
not talking about the crooks who claim they can get you top spots, just
the ones like worldsubmit.com who charge a flat fee to submit to multiple
engines. I've always done whatever submissions I could by hand. What
do you think about these? Are they worth it to save the time? Do you
know of a reliable one?
guru-O-gif writes
I don't think they are worth
much. There are free services that will submit you and I trust them
more OR buy the submission software and do it by hand so you know for
sure it gets done. for that I used to use submission wizard and adwebPRO
www.cyberspacehq.com/products/AddWeb/home.shtm
www.exploit.net/wizard/index.html
and at this stage in the
game...I almost think this is useless or dangerous
1. the only engines in town
are google and yahoo...neither of these allow or like this type of submittion
2. older engines like lycos
and excite run filters so you can only submit an url or two a day
I personally think submitting
by hand is almost better at this point
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IS THERE A WAY TO STOP AD
BLOCKERS? from sign_bldr
sign_bldr
Hope you or one of the newsletter members can help me. I just finished
designing this site. I load it to my server.. Script errors... no banner
in my rotators..hmm whats up here... So I check all the scripts..
Html looks good to me.. I look at a few of my other sites running these
same scripts..Bang .. SAME problem with these too..Ok now I have a real
problem.. Something isnt right with my server..I spend about 4
hours looking thru everything cant find 1 thing wrong here...I have
to get away from the computer to think about this... I came back to
check something online, but get on from a comp . In my extra bedroom..
While Im there I check this site.. All scripts are OK and banners
are rotating. "What the %$^&*# is going on here". I come
back onto my main comp. To check site.. All these problems are back...
ok.. Now something must be wrong with this comp. Maybe my browser is
screwed up.. Because now if I reload (refresh) any web page... the html
/ tables are not lining up.. Html really screwed up here.. Hmmm maybe
a virus of some kind....
I run mcaffee.. notta all
clean.. I go to one of my sites.. And thru the browser check html (view
source) what is this?? Every page now has this on top:
<!-- BEGIN Popup Blocker
-->
<script language='javascript'>
NS_ActualOpen=window.open;
function NS_NullWindow(){this.window;}
function NS_NewOpen(url,nam,atr){return(new NS_NullWindow());}
window.open=NS_NewOpen;
</script>
<!-- END Popup Blocker -->
Now I'm thinking maybe my
server was hacked... I do a google seach..
groups.google.com/groups?q=%3C%21--+BEGIN+Popup+Blocker+--%3E&hl=en&btnG=Google+Search
Ahhhh ZONEALARM PRO 3.0!!!
I just upgraded to vers 3.0 on my main comp. It has an ad blocker setup
by default. I shut down the ad blocker all is back to normal... Now
for the question. Any way around this.. While doing the search, I see
that zonealarm, ie6.0 & xp have ad blockers. Is there any code out
there to Kill these ad blockers?? They block popups, scripts, banner
rotators. animated gif's....I checked the stats on some of my counters
( Joespc.com - I setup my own counter system with stats ) Looks like
ie 5 & 5.5 are still top..
andy writes:
anyone know if we can fight back to get ads to show? email me andy@lips.com
One way I can think of it going to text ads...like google.
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QUESTIONS ON STARTING AN
AFFILIATE PROGRAM from Alex
Alex asks
if I were to have a successfull site :-)) and I would want a webmaster
program one day, how much would I have to earn at least to make it
interesting for me to outsource it to third parties who take care of
everything (payments,cs)?
guru-Of-if writes
I am not sure what you mean. Do you mean get someone to run it? I think
you would lose your shirt. The only way to do it is by yourself. They
are risky to begin with...you have to run it. If you mean using a site
like ibill that sets the whole program up for you....that is usually
the best option for newer wemasters since everything is done for you
and is safer with recurring billing. Once you have been running for
a few years, then you might consider per-sign-up, but you need a bigger
wad of cash in the bank and you must be ruthless in your attempts to
keep the system free of fraud or you can be robbed blind in a very short
amount of time
Alex asks
Which companies actually provide (and handle) adult wembaster affiliate
programs to webmasters]?
guru-Of-if writes
the only one I can think of off hand is ibill. There are probably others.
Alex asks
When a webmaster sources his wembasterprogram out to a third party,
does
normally also sources the customer service out?
guru-Of-if writes
I believe the billing questions are sources out but I am not sure. You
still need to be available for customer service questions
Alex asks
Would you discourage me to outsource an affiliate program to others?
guru-Of-if writes
I would unless it is an ibill style program where they are already a
biller and then they just give you this option of creating a system
that works with your billing
Alex asks
It is quite complicated to run the whole affiliate program on your own,
isn´t it?:
guru-Of-if writes
I think it is...especially in the beginning. The problem most people
neglect is CROOKS. Crooks will destroy your program 10 ways from sunday.
I have seen a few people get taken down because of inadequate accounting
controls. Here is the other point....most people that opening an "affiliate
program" will somehow get them traffic and save their site. well
th exact same problem occurs...where do you get traffic and get webmasters
now to signup for you new program since there are only 5000 affiliate
programs to choose from. It is just about as hard as getting Joe Surfer
to sign up...maybe a little less hard but not much.
Alex asks
customer service, help desk, maintenance, programmers, etc)
Which adult webmaster software/company would you advice me?
guru-Of-if writes
I don't know enough ot them. I would look at ibill. This is the one
I see the most often. I do not know of many frely availabe scripts to
do it. I don't think I would trust them and would write my own if I
were going to try it without a 3rd party biller. There may be great
ones available...ask around but be leary.
Alex asks
Is it a common practice in the adult business to outsource to third
parties?
guru-Of-if writes
no. and I am ALWAYS against giving anyone your cash register in any
business. It is the most fangerous thing you can do. We used to play
foosball at this giant pool hal in Glendale california called something
like "James" ...You could even see a movie start or two on
a busy Firday night. What always stuck out in my mind was that the owner
worked every night and he did one job...work the cash register. When
you trust people with your cash register..things can go bad fast.
if anyone has opinions, or
knows of software, or other third party billers that set you up for
an affiliate program, I would love to add your comments to next weeks
letter. please email andy@lips.com
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ALTA VISTA CHARGING FOR ADULT
SITE SUBMISSION from Tara
Tara writes
I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but Altavista is charging $79
per url to submit adult material to its search engine. here's the page:
https://www.infospider.com/av/app/adult_price_popup
I cannot believe that they
are trying to perpetuate this sort of scam. They are just as bad as
Yahoo, which charges $600 to add an adult site!
INTERESTING SITES
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NEW BBC SEARCH ENGINE from Jill
www.bbc.co.uk/search/tryout/about.shtml
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SPEAK WITH A GEEK TECH SUPPORT
from sign_bldr
www.speakwithageek.com/
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MOVIE POOP SHOOT from sign_bldr
www.moviepoopshoot.com/news.html
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EYE WONDER
rare ads
www.eyewonder.com/demos/advertisingdemo.cfm
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UNICAST
rare ads
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OLD BBS LISTINGS from Steve
Steve writes
Hmmm...a little esoteric, but I thought you would get a kick out of
it
bbslist.textfiles.com/
bbslist.textfiles.com/usbbs.html
www.textfiles.com/
hehe I really get a kick
out of this site...and just visited and see they are expanding...hope
it all stays good ;-)
www.bbsdocumentary.com
they are making a documentary
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RECORD SEAT SALES AT TYSON VS LEWIS
news.bbc.co.uk/sport/hi/english/boxing/newsid_1948000/1948077.stm
TYSON INTERVIEWS
he wants the women reporters to have perform sex acts on him. He wishes
reports had kids so he could stomp their testicles, and he would like
to kill Lewis.
www.nypost.com/sports/42339.htm
www.sundayherald.com/24402
www.nydailynews.com/2002-05-05/Metro_Sports/Other_Sports/a-149839.asp
here is the clasic
Mike Tyson: I'd Like to 'Stomp the Testicles' of Reporters' Children
www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=2002/5/4/92246
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UFC 37 - HIGH IMPACT FRIDAY
FRIDAY FRIDAY
www.ufc.tv/events/events.asp
I will admit that this card
is weak. No real big names...so I go in expecting not much in hopes
that it turns out good. Three [pretty great fights
www.ufc.tv/events/ppv/ufc37/ufc37.asp
Ricco Suave vs TK. TK is
more of a journeyman fighter so it would be a huge upset if he could
take Ricco but Ricco is very strong. Then BJ the natural Penn. This
should be one of the best fights of the night. Then the BIG FIGHT Matt
"The Law", a former olympian and now used car dealer who can
wrestle with anyone takes on Marillo "Bust Em Up" Bustamonte,
the brazillian expert. I am getting more excited now!
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COBRA UPDATES
did the big Knott's Berry KitCar show and had great fun
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did the Cucamonga Show to
raise money for Dogs and Cats and 3 of my cobra buddies came and won
trophies! 23 Dogs and Cats got homes and $2500 raised!
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and in technical carville,
the Butcher talks Timing Tape and distributor gears
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IS IT TOO LATE TO START A
SITE from Ng
Ng asks
Hi andy, I enjoy a lot your semi-whatever newsletter. I have a small
2part question...Is it still too late to start a website? Or is there
still room for more and more porn sites on the net?
guru-Of-Gif writes
is it too late to manufacture a TV? You could do it, but it would be
hard. The same is very true in porn. There is always room for an innovative
and hard working upstart...just be aware that it is an uphill climb
at this point. Most of the gold has been taken out of the mine
Ng asks
If there is still space.. I have a premade teens site ready to open,
but I am thinking about, next door girls. Do you think that is a good
idea? Thanks!
guru-Of-Gif writes
Well, I have always said...conten or site concept is the easy part.
The hard part is "where is my teen site going to get traffic".
A site is a site. Maybe one site in a million is so unique that it pulls
traffic...but 999,999 need to have traffic driven and pulled to them.
Therefore "sure that site is a fine idea"...but the problem
still remains that you need to focus all of your energies on getting
traffic.
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