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Give me some coffee. Wakey Wakey...eggs and bakey. Did they ever say that goofy chant to you at summer camp while Marge rang the triangle bell. Man, I hated summer camp. :) I need to wake up today since I almost forgot that today is SexSwap NEWS day! This week seems to be a week where porn is in the news with the library filtering trials. Librarian's and others are asked to testify. What is interesting is that people are finding out how silly some of these laws are and how "being offended" is highly subjected. One librarian said something like "we have these same photos in books on sex education". --And then this begs the question...is one photo ok, yet another bad, when they are of the same event....the only difference is that one is in an educational manual while the other is for masturbatory practices =) The internet is forcing Johnny Q Politician and public to wake up and become educated.

In other news, it is becoming more and more scary as ISPs are being required by some states to filter illegal material. This is an imossible task and lawmakers are clearly not understanding the internet. It is also very disappointing that they are trying to force this task onto ISPs. If this trend continues, it could unravel the internet since it is IMPOSSIBLE to block all illegal materials...something can always get through. Why not just go after the freaking crooks and leave the ISPs alone.

There are a few more stories and rumors on why GOTO changed its name this week. Interesting reading and none of them really make sense to me.

Jerry and I go HEAD TO HEAD in paysite math. We actually wrote novels to each other but I decided the arguments were becoming circular and so I have only included the initial emails. Jerry's basic premise is that "everyone knows "per sign up" programs are being shaved. Well this makes absolutely no sense to me. Why would a crooked affiliate program shave "per sign up" but not "re curring"? Yuo could argue that many recurring programs use 3rd party billers and therefore are less likely to have monkey business and I would have to agree....but comparing apples to apples...I am pretty sure that scrubbing, massaging, or other illegal accounting practices are consistant accross all programs. I alos believe that they are a lot less rampant than many people believe. AND...at the end of the damn day...all you have to do is TEST. You try a program for 3 days and you pretty well know what you are going to make. Just freaking test and you will find the site that best matches your traffic. Jerry wants me to believe PERCENT RECURRING is the Bees Knees....well I just don't buy that...I think all programs are pretty close. I really just think that again "PER CLICK" "PER SIGN UP" and "PERCENT RECURRING" are all the same thing! It is just smoke and mirrors and different ways to sell the product. Business is business and the laws of dupply and demand hold true. Well more on this below. =)

I was wrong last week on ASCII and HTML email. Several people wrote in that it is easy to do and how to do it in the trix section. Great stuff.

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PA NEW LAW REQUIRES ISPs TO BLOCK CHILD PORN from Charles
Here is an article from Charles...I think this is a crazy law since it is an impossible task.
www.msnbc.com/local/wbre/m161320.asp

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INTERVIEW ON CNBC REVEALS GOTO NAME CHANGE from Stephen
Stephen writes
In an interview I remember on CNBC the CEO of Overture/GoTo was asked why they changed the name and he stated something along the lines of that their partners (AOL, Yahoo, etc...) didn't like the name because it sounded "to competitive" and that's why they decided to change it.

As for Disney, GoTo won the logo dispute with Go.com so I don't see where Disney would have any power to force GoTo to change their name. If they thought they did they would have done something back in 99.

INFOSEEK AND GO.COM EXTEND AGREEMENT WITH OVERATURE
investor.cnet.com/investor/news/newsitem/0-9900-1028-9395408-0.html

GOTO AND OVERATURE FAQ
Why did you decide to change your name?
www.corporate-ir.net/ireye/ir_site.zhtml?ticker=OVER&script=1801#5

what a load of BS =) This is MBA harvard double talk if you ask. Me. Overture should sitdown at the board room and say "look, we made a mistake, lets go back to goto.com"

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GOOGLE RUNS A TIGHT SHIP from Delay
Delay writes
www.google.com/jobs/great-people-needed.html

I know you always like to look at the number of people employed at companies. There is an interesting graph from google on their total number of people employed. look at the bottom of this page. Currently a bit over 300. While thats a lot when you start comparing it to yahoo and others I bet it is a tenth of what they have...

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HEAD TO HEAD ON PAYSITE MATH from Jerry
Jerry sent me and email and it looks like he and I agree on almost nothing =) Let the chips fall where they may

Jerry writes
Almost everyone getting pay-per sign-up is getting shaved like crazy Fact recurring is the best

Andy writes
that's bullshit =) the reason is...because all I have to do is test. A sign up is a signup, and they are worth almost the same in the long run...so if you TEST and get 5 signups here and 5 there...then you can pick. I go with the per sign-ups where I get the get the most daily signups. I have tested recurring many times as well. There is no conspiracy that I can see but I am sure there is a percentage fraud on both systems.

Jerry writes
I know several companys work off margins they set and they will make sure they meet there number and shave members. A small % of members that have been with me for over a year some 7,8,9 months.

Andy writes
YES. but just as many of your members that have also onlybeen with you for 3 days. You have to know the average!

Jerry writes
You really can't do math on recurring billing. the avg is impossible to many varibles. Now add trails memberships in the mix.

Andy writes
It is not impossible. I have already showed the formula 6,347 times in past issue :) I do not differentiate trial from regular..it is much simpler to consider them as one when calculating the average since most signups are for the trial anyway. It is very easy to calculate.

Jerry writes
The Best thing you said is to change up the splash and members layout.Untill it works the best. That will really increase your %

Jerry writes
I have read your paysite math. the recurring end of it is not 100% .Saying 2.5 avg stay? I do not agree.

Andy writes
I said "I am guessing it is 2.5" but I am not sure and every site is different...that is just an example.

Jerry writes
Our net sales avg is higher then 2.5 x $34.95.net before webmaster

Andy writes
so are you saying that you pay 50%, and that the average customer is staying at least 5 months since you pay out half and you are netting 2.5 x $35....am I correct? Or am I confused?

Jerry writes
I have seen the shaving with my own eyes. Third partys suck 15% but you will get the sign-up. I know scrubbbing its the same with everyone.

Andy writes
The point is....I DON'T CARE IF THEY SCRUB...it is all MATH
If I get 7 sign-ups a day from a 'scrubber' and 4 from a 'non-scrubber', then I go with the scrubber! I seriously doubt that as many sites scrub as you feel do.

Jerry writes
Why do companys want the quick payoff they reap the recurring? they make more money period.. If you on a recurring plan you own 50-65% of the site. great site like www.karupspc.com recurring 4+ month avg. 40% stay longer. pay-per is for the owner of the site. recurring is a real buisness model that works and is better for the webmaster promoter.. the math only works after a certain test peroid. if you basis every site with those avgs. they wont be the same, some way off.

Andy writes
I think you are way off on how long people are staying at karupspc. It is $30 a month. If the average stay is 4 months....this means they are making $120 per sign-up. Why in fred's green earth would this company NOT pay $60 a sign-up and CORNER the webmaster market. I would be signed up in a heart beat. Why not pay $50? or even $70 because they are making $120. They would have 20,000 webmasters sending them traffic if they paid $60 a sign-up and they MUST have good enough margins to pay 50%. I'll tell you why they are not paying $60 a sign-up...because their customers ARE NOT STAYING an average of 4 months. There is nothing wrong with recurring billing. Many people love it and it is a much simpler system for a webmaster on a budget to start. It is no more a real billing model that "per sign up" or "per click". They are all good models when fraud is kept to a minimum and the site know's its numbers. The real benefit of recurring is that a webmaster does not have to know his numbers since he just pays a flat percent and does not have to worry if his math is correct or not.

Jerry writes
Shaving...I have seen the shaving with my own eyes.

Andy writes
the other problem with your arguement is....WHY would only evil webmasters with PER SIGN UP programs turn to scrubbing and not with RECURRING? It makes no sense that a crooked webmaster would not be crooked with any program since they could hide the signup either way if they had the power to.

Jerry writes
I said our average is higer then 2.5months x 34.95 (the cost of my site.) then average the 6,7,8,9 .months members that is a small percent 3-4 months stays equal on the low end 52.42 for one sign-up after 3 months. lets say the average payout is $50 more for the webmaster. 34.95 /2=17.47 x 3 months avg=52.42 avg paid for one sign-up

Andy writes
well let's say it is 3 months...we are splitting hairs. I believe you that it is three. I gave an example of 2.5 and 3 is damn close to 2.5 =) My point when I say "2.5" is to shock webmasters that believe it is 7 months. I totally think a sites average can be 3 months.

Jerry writes
you generate 10 sign-ups a month per sign-up you get 30x10x30=9k recurring 10 sign-ups avg 3- 4 months over a year you will have more. i'm 100% positive about karups. they have a shit load of webmasters making $60 a signup

Andy writes
I just don't think they do, especially since they program is recurring and very few people who play the recurring game know the math. The problem is that EVERY webmaster needs to make $60 there to prove that is the AVERAGE. I strongly, seriously, highly doubt that their average stay is 4 months. :)

Jerry writes
all smart webmaster should join karups. there members stay at the site because its value. they dont put up the same feeds as everyone thats where the 2.5 avg. comes to play every site is the same . people wait for there exclusive updatesits a real site people enjoy and webmasters love to great content, and 1/500 conversions. try and see. why would they cut there profit margin to make the same coin?$70 sign-ups? $120 PER sign-up. look there referal page almost ever tgp promotes them and for a good reason $60 per sign-up

Andy writes
hee hee heee. This is what I constantly argue! In my opinion, it is naive to think that Karup's is SO DIFFERENT that other porn sites. Tits are tits. Every site I have ever spoken to has told me "our site is way different, and our site has our own content". There must be 5000 sites that match that description.

1. people join adults sites as a spontaneous buy
2. people don't quit adult sites due to a laziness
3. there is very little difference in "avg stay" from site to site.

Are their flames shooting from your nose after reading this? Do you argee, disagree or in the barrel? Send in your two cents and I most likely will add you to next weeks letter. andy@lips.com

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MORE INFO ON NEW GIGABLAST SEARCH ENGINE from Dan
Dan writes
I first discovered gigablast when they started spidering my site and the sites of some of the users of my cloaking software. There are very active discussions going on about gigablast over on WebmasterWorld.com.
www.webmasterworld.com/forum6/857.htm and
www.webmasterworld.com/forum11/1070.htm

Here are some points:

1) Instant addition to spidering que. You can submit your website and have
it added to the que for spidering. This doesn't necessarily mean it will be
spidered instantly, but it does get spidered pretty quickly.

2) Instant addition to index. Once your site is spidered, it will be in the
index.

3) Gigablast caches. If you are cloaking, leave the Gigablast spider, IP
address 208.254.87.133 out of your spider list or you will be decloaked. To
see a cached page in Gigablast, do a search and click on the "mirror" link.
I believe the spider has no User Agent at present, but in the future it will
be "gigabot".

4) Gigablast is not a commercial engine. It is somebody's project. The
owner posts on Webmasterworld.com under the user name "mattdwells". Here's
what he says about Gigablast:

"1) as most know this is pre-beta
2) no i do not plan on "selling out". i'm not accepting any venture capital,
but i may take out loans. i have a passion for information retrieval and
there's a lot of projects i want to do once i have a large corpus of
documents.
3) i plan on having a decent beta in a couple of months
4) the current hardware i have should hold somewhere between 200-250 million
web page at about 80 queries per second.
5) i'm running off a T1 now (a major bottleneck), which, because it's being
hammered by the spider, makes the website seem sluggish"

The above was quoted from WebmasterWorld.com at
www.webmasterworld.com/forum6/857.htm

5) Gigablast's policy on cloaking is not to bann it unless it's used to
mislead or abuse searchers. Good policy in my opinion.

6) Gigablast indexes the meta keyword/description tags.

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LAWS TO CURB PORN UNFAIR ON ISP from SignGuy
scary stuff
www.internetnews.com/asp-news/article/0,,3411_997181,00.html

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LIBRARIAN'S TESTIFY IN INTERNET PORN BATTLE from Greg
Go ACLU Go!
www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/internet/03/25/porn.trial.reut/index.html

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PORN FILTER TRIAL GETS RAUNCHY from Charles
sex is sex...most of us do it...there are many ways to do it. being offended is subjective
www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,51312,00.html?tw=wn_ascii

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BAG OF SALT TABLE O' TRIX CONTENT

SECRETS OF ASCII AND HTML EMAILS from Stephen
GOTO MIGHT BE GIVING UP A TON OF TRAFFIC from Paul
MORE SECRETS OF ASCII AND HTML EMAILS from Delay
RE: HOW CAN YOU TELL IF A SERVER IS REDIRECTING TRAFFIC from Joel
EVEN MORE SECRETS OF ASCII AND HTML EMAILS from Craig the Programmer
U.S. GOV AS A SOURCE OF CONTENT from Steve
CJ AND TGP DEBATES from Steve
SOME MAINSTREAM SITES GET IT from D.
INTERNET NOW CASH COW FOR POLITICIANS from Greg


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GOOGLE TESTS TAKING ON SUPER COMPUTERS
news.com.com/2100-1001-867091.html

TECH SECTOR RECOVERY AROUND CORNER from Richard
www.ecommercetimes.com/perl/story/16944.html

CIA USED ILLEGAL SNOOPER COOKIE from SignGuy
www.vnunet.com/News/1130252

INTERCEPT TO ACQUIRE INTERNET BILLING COMPANY from Emma
biz.yahoo.com/bw/020320/202027_2.html

RED HAT SACLING DOWN - AIMING AT LARGE CUSTOMERS from SignGuy
www.businessweek.com/technology/cnet/stories/9407507.htm

AUTHORS HURT BY USED BOOK SALES AT AMAZON from Charles
www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,51113,00.html?tw=wn_ascii

BOGUS DOT USA SELLER SHUT DOWN
www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,50977,00.html?tw=ascii

YAHOO NOW CHARGING FOR EMAIL POP3 AND MORE
help.yahoo.com/help/us/mail/pop/pop-16.html

SPAM SHOWDOWN AT BATTLECREEK from Charles
www.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,51218,00.html?tw=wn_ascii

CUBA BANNING PC SALES
www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,51270,00.html?tw=wn_ascii

MS SAYS REDHAT CAUSES LINUX WOES from SignGuy
www.wired.com/news/antitrust/0,1551,51292,00.html

MCAFEE TURNS DOWN $208M BUYOUT OFFER from SignGuy
www.internetnews.com/asp-news/article/0,,3411_997181,00.html

PLAYBOY SEEKS THE WOMEN OF ENRON from Allen
news1.iwon.com/article/id/48131|oddlyenough|03-26-2002::07:25|reuters.html

SOFTWARE HARDWARE
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MICROPLANET'S GRAVITY - MY FAVORITE NEWSREADER
cws.internet.com/news-gravity.html

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TRIX
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SECRETS OF ASCII AND HTML EMAILS from Stephen
Stephen writes
You can send one email with both ASCII and HTML and if you format it the right way email clients that can display HTML will show the HTML and clients that can't will show the ASCII. I use MS Outlook and it will allow you to have some ASCII and then you can start the HTML with "<html>" and "<head>" tags. I have also seen people use "Content-Type: multipart/alternative", "Content-Type: text/plain", and "Content-Type: text/html" together.

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GOTO MIGHT BE GIVING UP A TON OF TRAFFIC from Paul
xslt.alexa.com/data?cli=100&url=goto.com

the total alexa visits are 338,000+ which usually means that site gets that many hits per day in my personal experience. most people would kill for 1/4 of that traffic a day. and they are throwing it in the trash when they plan not to redirect goto.com traffic

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MORE SECRETS OF ASCII AND HTML EMAILS from Delay
Delay writes
Is what you need to look for is a mime multipart email. This allows you to send an html and text message in the same message and whichever version the mail client can view is displayed. This won't work on the very oldest mail clients but most now support this type of message.

Here is an article about it.
www.jscape.com/articles/01132002.html

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RE: HOW CAN YOU TELL IF A SERVER IS REDIRECTING TRAFFIC from Joel
Joel writes
Just sifting through issues of sexswap sitting in my inbox and figured I'd answer this question.. If it's already been answered ignore me :) (If anyone wants, I can write a Perl app to parse your logs looking for redirects -- just email me ajhaines@jactstudios.com) This is merely true if they're running Apache with combined logs..

Here's a redirected log entry:

xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx - - [21/Mar/2002:00:04:18 -0500] "GET /error/404.html
HTTP/1.1" 302 301 "--CENSORED--" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US;
rv:0.9.2)Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1"

You'll see after the request ("GET /error/404.html HTTP/1.1") the status code is reported, 302 is a redirect, it's followed by the size of the data passed from the server (in this case, our redirected URL is 301 bytes long). Hope this helps.

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EVEN MORE SECRETS OF ASCII AND HTML EMAILS from Craig the Programmer
Craig the Programmer writes
Actually it is possible to have a multipart message, one part with the ASCII
text and one part with the HTML however it's actually kind of redundant to
provide emails containing both HTML and plain text (ASCII). The main reason
being readers that don't support HTML in the first place more often than not
do not understand the concepts behind multi-part mime messages. So when
that message arrives in a non-compatible reader you get all the formatting
text, the ascii message and the HTML message (well the HTML source) all
spewed out in one long plaintext email that looks rather ugly and confusing.

So you're better off picking either one or the other, or giving your
subscribers a choice. I guess it would be hard to say whether ascii or HTML
is a better route to go however if I had to look at this objectively ascii
is the best route....

Reasons:

1 - Significantly faster transmission time
2 - Unless it's from a known source, HTML messages are almost instantly
classified as spam by most people (I know I do)
3 - HTML based messages can be incredibly annoying to those who don't have a
permaconnection. Assume you're on a 56k dialup...you download your messages
and disconnect. Now you're going through your mail and you come across an
HTML advertisement that contains 5 or 6 photos, whether it be backgrounds,
borders, teasers whatever....now these images aren't transmitted with the
message, they're obtained via the net when the message is read...so what
happens? One of two things can happen...both of which can drive you nuts

a) The images all show up as broken, so you wind up with a very ugly
looking HTML page
b) Your email program tries to reconnect you to the net to download these
images, so now you have this dialup box appearing on your screen, and some
programs are horrible in that even if you select don't connect, you get to
see the dialup box for every single potential image the HTML is trying to
display.

At the same time though HTML based mails provide you with the ability to
advertise to a reader visually rather than forcing them to have read through
the entire sales pitch. Also when done properly you can have HTML based
emails do a variety of functions not normally available in a plaintext
message.

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U.S. GOV AS A SOURCE OF CONTENT from Steve
Steve writes
Here's something interesting, if you can work it: government data and reports are not covered under copy rights. Basically, go to any government website and you will find the following:

"All information presented on these pages is considered public domain
and may be distributed or copied unless otherwise specified. Use of
appropriate byline/photo/image credits is requested."

Example sites
navy
ad.usno.navy.mil/privacy.shtml
sec
www.sel.noaa.gov/privacy.html
hazmat
hazmat.dot.gov/warning.htm
nasa
lisar.larc.nasa.gov/
lisar.larc.nasa.gov/UTILS/copyright.cgi

Pretty cool, huh? Could be a great resource...for instance, getting cool photos off of NASA's site, etc. Lot's of other things you could do, like repackaging reports, etc. The government is crazy and produces like crazy! I think all the companies that make mapping software use Census' data, for example. Well, just a thought...

Only thing is when they have an outside contractor working on the data, then there might be issues (that might happen with something like satellite mapping data that is highly sensitive and they use that as an arguement to keep the public away). You can always just send the agency an email. Or on a site like the library of congress' American Memory where they have a ton of things from all over the place. But...the idea is that a government employee is a public servant, so what they produce should be in the public domain.

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CJ AND TGP DEBATES from Steve
Steve writes
bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=014029
bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=000730&p=

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SOME MAINSTREAM SITES GET IT from D.
D. writes
Seems someone in the corporate world has figured out that the porn folks have the best ideas.
www.takemeaway.com/
www.takemeaway.com/home/index.html

I checked at Geektools (indespensible for the Webmaster
www.geektools.com) and sure enough:
Registrant:
Coty US Inc. (TAKEMEAWAY2-DOM)
237 Park Avenue, 19th Floor
New York, NY 10017
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INTERNET NOW CASH COW FOR POLITICIANS from Greg
Greg writes
Story regarding how much coin politicians are making on the web. Goes to show ya.
www.uniontrib.com/news/uniontrib/mon/news/news_1n25money.html

INTERESTING SITES
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OPRANO from Juicy Jill
adult webmaster resources board
oprano.com/

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SARCASTIC BASTARDS WEBMASTER BOARD from Steve
Steve writes:
Do you know this board? I think they run one of the best boards out there and the guys that run it are very cool:
www.sarcastic-bastards.com/cgi-bin/YaBB/YaBB.cgi

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US SUBMARINE FOR SALE from SignGuy
www.govliquidation.com/auction/view?auctionId=29270

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SPUDTECH
ground zero for the guild of potato launchers
www.spudtech.com/

GURU OF GIF
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BURGER KING ADDS VEGGIE BURGER -> VEGGIES UNITE
money.cnn.com/2002/03/14/news/companies/burgerking_veggie/

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TYSON - LEWIS ON FOR JUNE 8 from Signguy
espn.go.com/boxing/news/2002/0325/1357644.html

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BUTCHER COBRA STORIES
I have been too tired to write stories. Here are a few odd pics
www.cobralads.com/vent/
www.cobralads.com/8528/index.html
www.cobralads.com/dyno2000/

I took my cobra down to the track...as the song goes...and then I was riddled once again with mechanical problems as I attempt to sort out a new car. 1. lost radiator hose in first ten minutes. 2. distributor locked at full advance constantly and made it impossible to have dun. 3. distributor actucally shifted without me knowing and made the car run like crap and oil was 240F. Fixing all these small things as we speak.

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DANGEROUS DAN AND GURU-O-GIF SLASHING THIS SPOTS PRICE
yep. We originally had or three text based ads in the newsletter priced at
TOP ad - $200
MID ad - $125
END ad - $175 (too high!) Slash that price!

It seems clear that the lower ad is over priced since no one wants to buy it. And therefore

WE ARE SLASHING PRICES!
buy this ad spot for NOT $175, NOT EVEN $150. In any other day and age you might even expect to pay $125.

HA we are cutting the price of this bottom ad to...not even $100.

I am talking about $99 buys you this ad that reaches 5000 webmasters each and every week as we discuss tips, tricks and a bunch of BS. 4089 webmaster read the newsletter in their email box each week and 854 read the newsletter online ...over 5000 a week.

BUT THATS NOT ALL
act now, and you can buy 4 ads and get ad number 5 FREE. A little less than $400 and you have 5 weeks of ads running in classic SexSwap news.

DO YOU SELL CONTENT? HOSTING? SERVERS? then this spot might work well for you.

DO YOU SELL FERARRI'S? well then you probably only need to sell one to make some good coin...hee hee haaaa. How do you spell Ferarri by the way?

We have cut prices since we want people to do well and the ad was shown to be over priced. At $99, I think it should work much better. We are fairly lenient on size of add and amount of links etc. If you are interested in getting more info on this spot or others, please email "Dangerous Dan" daniel@gammae.com Dan can let you know current availability and payment options. I think we can take just about anything (paypal, CC, check, gold bullion)...maybe even food stamps :)

THIS SPOT AVAILABLE NOW ONLY $99
you read this ad....and others do to!

WAIT! just one more thing. You still with me? Have a sip of your coffee or shot of tequila (if its after 3pm)...now have a handful of those flmaing hot cheetos. You still with me -- now, if you wouldn't mind...could I please get you to click this link for a second
trix.sexswap.com/justatest.html

Did you click it? What do you mean you forgot and don't trust me? please please baby baby..please click here
trix.sexswap.com/justatest.html

hee hee hee. this will be a good story in next weeks newsletter as well :)

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HOW MANY PEOPLE CLICK THE BOTTOM AD IN SEXSWAP NEWS?
I have often wondered this myself. As you know, I am a strong believer in testing. How can one find these things out? I woudl suggest testing. Click here to see some of the rather interesting results. =)
trix.sexswap.com/justatest.html

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those are my stories...ya baby ya

chow mein wayne


Andy
andy@lips.com

email daniel@gammae.com for newsletter advertising rates and availability