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Hey kids, we are back to the regular sized version of SexSwap news...last weeks was too darn big and almost gave me a hernia. Last week I said "buy amazon". No sooner than sending out the email...Amazon up 30% in one day! Those wallstreet lads must read this rag ...hee hee haa....ya sure. I have to admit I had tears in my eyes. About 2 weeks ago I decided to change online brokers and was sitting all cash trying to move the funds...I missed those DAMN HUGE amazon gains! I was so sad since I had been patiently waiting :) Oh Well. I opened my new account and bought the shares again yesterday. My theory is that Amazon with follow the path of GOTO/Overature which announced profitability last month. They have almsot tripled in 2 months
bigcharts.marketwatch.com/intchart/frames/frames.asp?symb=over
I have been trading online for almost ten years now. Did any of you trade on the old AOL maybe in 96 or so? Remember keyword PCFN. They were PC financial network. I think they might of been something before that. Well PCFN was gobbled up by DLJ. Then DLJ was gobbled up by CSFB Direct. Here is the PCFN website and you see they list DLJ and then CSFB
www.pcfn.com
Here is actually the history of PCFN which started on Prodigy...remember them? And remember Compuserver...anyone remember Apple eWorld? :)

Well I didn't like being moved around so much but I tolerated it. And then the news got dark. CSFB announces something like a $400M loss which seems to have been upgraded to $187M in latest news...and that is a fair chunk of change and then this
CSFB TO SELL ONLINE TRADING UNIT
news.cnet.com/news/0-1007-200-7820859.html

Eek! they are selling me off yet again. That is 4 times. Well this made be too nervous so I decided to jump ship to get some stability. I decided to go to a sort of unknown broker that I have always had great service from their company. I am talking about AMEX...a dow 30. they have this cute little brokerage. The phone people are top notch. Fees are reasonable. The online site is still not as fancy as a DLJ or eTrade but there are so many great sites like MSN Investor and BigCharts that I do my research their. My only complaints so far would be that they do not email me my trades so I log in and see them. If you are looking for a "stable" and neat online brokerage, you might give them a look
finance.americanexpress.com/sif/cda/page/0,1641,4516,00.asp

This week lots of interesting tidbits. It is a week of testing on the AMD 1U as Joe and I debate the value of a sparingly amount of goob vs the Guru-O-Gif large dollop of white silicone heat sink juice in a tube. Wes the ISP sent in two great products to fiddle with. he sent a 100ATA round cable which I added to the box AND a very slick side discharge Elan 1U fan/sink combo. I test these badboys out on the box and have the results. They may astound you! And then again, they may bore you to tears but I had good fun doing them :)

HEY! I forgot to mention

THE COBRA IS DONE -> WOO HOOO PEEE POOOO
Well it was done for a week until I broke the clutch last night and it is in the garage for repairs. Here are the pics after bringing it home from the professional detailer painter who helped me bring my home paint job up to a higher quality level that I was able to do on my own. It has been 18 months and I am finally done
www.cobralads.com/viper-red/

this is my favorite pic...check out the reflection of that so cal palm!
www.cobralads.com/viper-red/DSC00017.JPG.html

Hey! Did you see that Lewis fight? That guy is the king. Tyson Lewis in heavy negotiating and we may see the fight as early as April and it will be HUGE in terms of pay per view dollars and as a mega event.

Here I am on tangents again...back to hardware, software, porn and mainstream! This week I got a ton of emails on HOW to send beautiful spam emails with a JAVA pop up embedded. I never figured out how to do it but there are lots of TRIX that tell you how. It seems you need a MIME compatable emailer like Eudora and you are good to go. This week a couple folks wrote in on HOW to do those complex rollovers with DreamWeaver and it can be done. This and more

let's roll

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STARTUP.COM MOVIE
If you have a dish or cable with pay movies or go to blockbuster...RENT THIS MOVIE. It is a real life documentary and is fascinating. It is exactly what we have been talking about in sexswap news for the last 2 years and I think all porn folks and all wise mainstream folks will be astounded by the insane events that occured in the dot com gold rush. The story is about two friends that creat a dot com company. It was govworks.com and they honestly raise something like $60million! You know the story as well as I. They BURNT that money. All of a sudden they had 300 employees and they were smoking money. It is so amazing watching...they never ever talk about TRAFFIC once. They almost never talk about HOW they are going to make money. They have these air fairy grandiose ideas that are pure vapor and nonsense. What is sad about this story, as with all dot com failures, is there was a solid CORE business idea that could of made millions for 2 -10 people. Really what their niche started as was "paying new york parking tickets online'. Awesome idea and they got the contract. You could of been a millionaire JUST doing that with 2 people. But they were smoking the green stuff and were clueless which was too bad. Men pretending to be big shots. Venture Capitalists pretending to be wise. Man VCs bug me...they are wet behind the ears MBAs but their parents had coin or they found money and as my dad would say "you've been on the road horse shit". They think their advice is golden when they are good at one thing -> fleecing the stock market. They are not good at picking ideas or helping a business grow. Anyways, I found the movie awesome since it was an inside view on the rise and fall of a dot com. Remember that guy that did the play about amazon...I could not stop thinking about him saying "I am so very busy" as he waved his hands up and down. I have never seen people have so many meetings about air and work so hard at nothing in my life. Great stuff.

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EMAIL ATTACHMENT FUNNY BUSINESS
I am like a big dope. I paniced last week when the email came in as an "attachment" and I quickly looked at my email properties and saw "50k convert to attachment". I did not see that it said "incoming" and not outgoing like I thought so my second email was useless since it was on my settings to receive and not to send. I am sorry for the double send :) Now I know. I hope everyone is not getting the mail as attachments. I better not write as much :)

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HAA HEE HEE | EXCITE SOLD FOR $10M from Poshspice
$7 billion reduced to $10 million....shocking yet true. Unbelievable
news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-7832292.html

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RETAIL SALES SOARED IN OCTOBER
a couple folks sent me this great link
www.msnbc.com/news/657457.asp?pne=msn

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KRISPY KREME RECORD OPENING $369K 1 WEEK from SignGuy
news.moneycentral.msn.com/ticker/article.asp?Feed=PR&Date=20011113&ID=1223008&Symbol=US:KKD

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ENGLISH NO LONGER DOMINANT LANGUAGE ON THE WEB from Daniel
www.newsbytes.com/news/01/172088.html

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COMMENTS ON DIALERS AND 900#S from Michael
Michael writes
From what Greg said it doesn't sound like that dialer did anything illegal. The fake debug script thing is illegal, but more than likely the webmaster rigged it and the dialer network wasn't aware of it. All legitimate dialers these days give a clear price disclosure so the surfer is aware how much he is being charged. Same goes with the 1-900 charges your friend had. I've been researching dialers and the PRS industry for nearly a year now since that is how long we've been developing our dialer network.
Michael Walczak
Candid Publishing, Inc.

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EBAY WILL AUCTION NEW HOMES! from Poshspice
www.ecommercetimes.com/perl/story/14893.html

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BAG OF SALT | TABLE O TRIX

PRO-LEVEL ROLLOVERS IN DREAMWEAVER WITH BEAHVIORS from Mario
JAVA EMAIL POP UP by Mario
JAVA EMAIL POP UP WITH EUDORA by Rook Zimbabwe
MORE HTML JAVA EMAILS by Rook
TRICK THUMBNAIL MAKER from Rook
EXAMPLE OF FUN ROLLOVER from Johnny
THAT WIERD NA EMAIL WAS AN SMTP VIRUS SCAN from Phil
BRAVENET FOR EMAIL AND JAVA POP UNDER by Emma
SIMPLE SOULTION TO JAVA IN EMAIL IS MIME ATTACHMENT from Chris
COMPLEX ROLLOVERS IN DREAMWEAER from Chad
LINUX IPTABLES AND FIREWALL TRICKS from guru-O-Gif
HANDLING WEB SERVER TRAFFIC LOADS from Scott
MSN BANDWIDTH SPEED TESTER from Guru-O-Gif

MORE NEWS
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ICANN - TO SERVE AND PROTECT from Charles
www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,48344,00.html?tw=wn20011113

YAHOO CUTS 400 JOBS from poshspice & Scott
dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20011115/bs/media_yahoo_jobs_dc_1.html
www.theregister.co.uk/content/23/22879.html

SHAMELESS PLUGS - CAVEAT EMPTOR
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UNDERWORLD CASH
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www.underworldcash.com
webmaster@underworldcash.com

NEED WEBMASTER HITS?
Trade links with this hot list for your webmaster site/section!
www.WildWebmasters.com/top/
Webmaster@WildWebmasters.com

EROTIC DESIGN - PAY SITES, BANNERS, FLASH, AVS\'S
High-quality designs and graphics at prices that won\'t break the bank
www.ultimatedesign.org
spirov@ultimatedesign.org

PROMO POST
oh and something cool you might like to plug is Promo Post.... gives you a
TGP2 site complete with listings and trades via a Javascript.js file.
Example: www.webpimps.com/promopost/index1.html
Signup: www.webpimps..com/promopost/signup.cgi
Post: www.webpimps.com/promopost/post.cgi

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TS LOCK from Simon
Simon writes
For the last 18 months my company
www.topshelfsoftware.com
has been developing a new privacy software app called TS Lock. The idea is to target porn surfers who choose to download porn onto their own PCs. TS Lock will let them totally secure that porn so only they can view it (protection from the wife, boss, kids etc...). TS Lock encrypts image & movies files - once they are locked they can only be displayed inside TS Lock - which is password protected. It was a bitch to develop but its an excellent app!
To see the TS Lock website please go to
www.tslock.com

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DIGITAL PHOTO PRINTERS from Dan
Dan writes
www.sonystyle.com/digitalimaging/F_PR.shtml
but that takes ink cartridges and I can't get an answer from sony on how often to replace them (I think I read somewhere that it is only good for 50 pics before needing a new cartridge.

Fuji has some cool thing that takes no ink, but I don't know how good the quailty is:
r5.us.rmi.yahoo.com/rmi/http://www.800.com/prod.asp/rmivars%3ftarget=_top?P=4436&

HP has a really cool looking and sounding one, but it takes ink cartridges:
products.hp-at-home.com/series/series.php?id=1be2e4b15100d568c5486f031c84fcec

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1U AMD SERVERS from Joe
Joe writes
I have found a few companies building Athlon 1U's MP boxes
www.einux.com/AServ1U1200.html
www.appro.com/
www.rackservers.com/
Clusters and such...
www.microway.com/products/clusters/dualathlon.html

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PRO-LEVEL ROLLOVERS IN DREAMWEAVER WITH BEAHVIORS from Mario
Mario writes
I wanted to let you know that I work pretty much exclusively with Dreamweaver
(just grabbed the 30 day trial of version of 4.0!!!) and what "ROLL OVER
BUTTON TO CENTER PIC from Kevin" is trying to do can be done with
Dreamweaver, using behaviors. An example of this on my site
www.adriansroom.com/index2.htm

you'll notice some thumbnails with a "film strip"
effect on the right. When these are clicked they will change the image on the
main picture area, this is a built in behavior (simple javascript) in
Dreamweaver. This will not reload the page it will only change the
"property" of the first image that loads. Also there are a bunch of
extensions (MXP files) that can be added to Dreamweaver, some can be
downloaded from Macromedia, others you get for free from the developers.These
allow you to do some really wild things for example see a site that we put
together at
www.pleasurable.com

which uses many of the cool tricks that I
have gotten through extensions. I am sure that Golive can do the same type of
thing I am just not as familiar with it.

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JAVA EMAIL POP UP by Mario
Mario writes
On the pop up email that Ryan asked about, the key is that he said he "clicked" it. So you can easily do this by using an "onload" command in javascript, in other words the link goes to a page that contains the javascript code, this triggers a console (which is just a new page with a specific size and with certain page options turned off) Again on this one it can be done with Dreamweaver and behaviors. I don't know how to open a console up without a click, but if you embed the javascript in an html email it should work also, I will have to try it. Its a pretty good idea, although I don't do much mass emailing.

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JAVA EMAIL POP UP WITH EUDORA by Rook Zimbabwe
Rook Zimbabwe writes
you had a Q??? in the latest ish... by the way I didn't see it as an attachment in either mailing... The Q??? was about how to write JAVA email. It sounded like the dude was asking about more of JAVA/HTML email. I use Eudora 5. Yes, I know it is a huge horse but I like it. PLUS it has a nifty feature that I find MUCH easier to work with.
www.eudora.com/

STATIONARY.
Yepper, now OUTLOOK had STATIONARY but it wasn't really stationary (at least I never could figure how to use it...) but with Eudora it is pretty simple. I will send you a SMALL java/html after this ,without popups since I hate them! (but they could easily be added with the FORM/CLOSE widget in HTML) Once you create the page you CUT or COPY the code. OPEN Eudora and paste it into a new letter. Select FILE then SAVE AS STATIONARY... [now for the secret] you have to OPEN it again to send it... BUT IT IS PRETTY!!!

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MORE HTML JAVA EMAILS by Rook
Rook writes:
HTML Broadcast Wizard
download.cnet.com/downloads/0-3356723-100-1566960.html?tag=st.dl.10001-103-1.lst-7-7.1566960

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TRICK THUMBNAIL MAKER from Rook
Rook writes
EZthumbas 2.0
download.cnet.com/downloads/0-4003353-100-4963185.html?tag=st.dl.10001-103-1.lst-7-1.4963185
Now version 1.0 was free and this seems to cost $30. I remember this program and use the older version which I might put up a link to as soon as I check if it is free or not... The important thing is that it creates the thumbnails and then creates the gallery page for you... I do a little cut and paste and format and I am done for the day! (10 minutes per page tops!!! and thats only if I get creative!!!)

OK I was right... EZTHUMB is free and at:
www.toniarts.com/dwnloads.htm

They have a lot of other free tolls that webmasters and others might like as well... check them out!

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EXAMPLE OF FUN ROLLOVER from Johnny
Johnny writes:
Hey Andy, regarding the rollover idea. A T.O (as in Toronto) dominatrix has this page for her gallerey.... nice job! Not quite a rollover, but a more fun gallerey........... I would think it would be fairly easy to modify that script to switch an image 'on mouseover' the site was designed by www.spiderskiss.com/
demonika.com/photos-js.html#
www.demonika.com/domain/index.html
for the full deal!

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THAT WIERD NA EMAIL WAS AN SMTP VIRUS SCAN from Phil
Phil writes
Hey Andy. That message is from a software package called webshield by Network Associates
www.nai.com
(formely mcaffee) not Network solutions. It's an SMTP virus scanning package. Usually it is configured to send out email like this to alert the sender that they are infected with whatever virus. You can also use it for content filtering, which it appears they are doing. So, someone sent email to a place that uses Webshield and has it configured to block com attachments.

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BRAVENET FOR EMAIL AND JAVA POP UNDER by Emma
Emma writes
www.bravenet.com/
I use bravenet for my html mailers & mailing list. I create the email in fucked page and copy & paste the code into bravenet's form. You just need to put an entrance console java script into the email . Myself I prefer to use a "pop under" so they don't close out my newsletter before reading it.

When you go to bravenet, they have a section for "mailing lists" Within that section, you can compose html email to send to your list. Unfortunately the list is opt in, so you can try & import your existing mailing list, but those people will need to opt in (again)

I have their upgraded system where they maintain my lists up to 3000 people, and I can customize my html for each newsletter. It was definitely worth the $100/year. I actually have two of these accounts with them, one for my balloon guys
www.emmasballoons.com
and one for my interracial site
www.lanalovesblackcock.com

(the free service works just fine if you have less than 500 people on your list)

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SIMPLE SOULTION TO JAVA IN EMAIL IS MIME ATTACHMENT from Chris
Chris writes
This is just a typical html page that is sent as a mime attachment to an email. It works pretty well however it does get annoying as all hell =)

guru-O-gif writes
what email client allows a mime attachment?

Chris writes
eudora does and perl via the mime:sendmail I think it was

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COMPLEX ROLLOVERS IN DREAMWEAER from Chad
Chad writes
www.creativepro.com/story/feature/12758.html
here is a decent tutorial on using the rollover technique in dreamweaver:

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LINUX IPTABLES AND FIREWALL TRICKS from guru-O-Gif
www.linuxguruz.org/iptables/

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HANDLING WEB SERVER TRAFFIC LOADS from Scott
Scott writes:
Onto IT: I now that when I first started hosting sites I was really curious about traffic consumption and response time based on user load etc and i know a lot of othe people ask about this on boards and newsgroups... well after 2 years of looking I finally found 2 good documents on the matter.

www.linuxmonth.com/issue1/articles/webperf/webperf.html
www.linuxmonth.com/issue2/articles/webperf/webperf.html

Quite an interesting read and seems up to date.
Although i think the guy who hosts the document should read it cause his site is really slow at times.

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MSN BANDWIDTH SPEED TESTER from Guru-O-Gif
my friend Ansel showed me this great MS site to check your bandwidth speed. I used to have an MS one bookmarked but it closed
tech.msn.com/internet/speedtest.asp

INTERESTING SITES
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ETOYS from SignGuy
SignGuy writes
etoys is back..kb toys bought them... gonna give it a shot for the holidays.
www.etoys.com/affiliates/agreement.html

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MSN MOVES INTO ONLINE PHOTO GALLERIES
photos.msn.com

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SECRETLY KISSED | COOL MAINSTREAM SITE
adrockr secretly kissed me. What's this mean? Well there is this new type of site. I think we talked about one a few months back about having a crush. This site allows a person so send someone a kiss and then that person wonders who it was. I can see this being very big with the highschool age crowd and perhaps work very well tied into a personals site. Check it out
www.secretlykissed.com/

GURU OF GIF
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PENTIUM 4 12V ADAPTER WIRE $10
Hot off the press. Forget that stupid 12V PS trouble with a PIV. Here is a nice solution
www.motherboardexpress.com/specs/index.cfm?ProductID=9048

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REGARDING PHIL DONAHUE
Last week I posted an interview on the WTC which had a more passive stance to the tragic events of Sept 11. I stated that “flames might shoot out the nose” of those who read that interview. I figured I was alone in my minority opinion. Grandma Scrotum from Austrailia, my new babe friend, wrote me an excellent email with solid points of debate. I was enlightened to find another swap member that shared this minority opinion. Thanks Grandma!

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JOE AND I DEBATE "HOW MUCH GOOB IS TOO MUCH" by Joe
Joe writes
I was really impressed to see a 1U AMD Box, I might be tempted to build one now... BUT That's too much goop!!! That much heatsink compound on a cpu will do more harm than good! Heatsink compound should be applied lightly, it's purpouse is to fill the microchasams betwean the heatsink and the cpu core. That much goop will keep heat on the cpu and not on your heatsink. What I use to apply a thin layer goop is my blockbuster credit card (best when swabbed with Isopropyl alcohol) I bet you if you take the goop off and go with a light dose of Artic Silver II and you'll loose a lot of heat..

Guru-Of-Gif writes
I have heard this from others but I am not sure I believe it. The silicone is just a material that tansfers the heat from one object to another. When you pull the heat sink down, it squishes the silicone down to a layer that is tiny...the excess goes into teh void around the CPU. I figure this would be air normally and now it allows heat to pass on the side even more. If you read the back of the heat sink, it says nothing about applying sparingly and states "high heat conductive metal oxide suspended in silicone". now I have never tested my theory, but I have never seen tests to prove it otherwise. If you can show me a test, I will believe :) I have heard people saying to put it thin but i believe it is a wife's tale. I may try a test one day and see if your theory holds up but I think after compression, there is no more than a few thousandths on my cpu...the rest is to the side and I think it can't hurt since air is the culprit.

www.extremeoverclocking.com/reviews/cooling/Thermal_Compound_Comparison_3.html
interesting test...the compounds all tested even. I use the exact one he calls "high quality" or GC Z9. Here is the tube
www.extremeoverclocking.com/reviews/cooling/images/Z9_Silicone.jpg
this is what we used in the vending industry to put certain heat sink parts in juke boxes. I just think that the CPU sink and fan take so much pressure to clamp down, most of the compound is squished out since it is a liquid and you get a thin core amount. this again is my theory and I have no real proof :)

Jow writes
Your right, the CPU goop is squished down and that is part of the problem. For Example you have 8 mini-heatsinks and three bridge points on an AMD cpu, these normaly don't produce much heat. All that excess goop is now transfering heat from your cpu core to those mini-heatsinks and bridges that are normaly air cooled, which in turn is keeping your cpu slug (core) and ceramic hotter than normal. I learned that through personal experience, I was using RadioShack compound I was pegging 150F+ temps! The compound was so hot that it started to smell like burning plastic! I cleaned up my cpu and added the recomended dose of artic silver to it and the temps droped 30F. The other problem also depends on how fast your goop can transfer heat to another object, if your goop doesn't have a good thermal movment heat will build in the extra goop and not pass to your heatsink fast enough. Now these arn't really tests, these are recomendations from manufactures and reviewers.

Artic Silver instructions:
www.arcticsilver.com/arctic_silver_instructions.htm

Heatsink Guide
www.heatsink-guide.com/compound.htm

Frosty Tech Quicksilver review
www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=587

A comment at the bottom of this review
www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1178&p=12

Guru-Of-Gif writes
Since Joe has first hand experience, let me give it a try.

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GURU-O-GIF SHATTERS THE MINIMAL GOOP MYTH
after reading Joe's email, I have to admit that I was worried. Perhaps those other tiny components needed air. This all did not sit right with me. The key is to get the metals talking to each other and flowing heat. I can see no problem with extra goop since it allows even greater surface contact on the edges. IT WAS TIME TO TEST

The very first thing I did was reboot the AMD 1333 and go into BIOS hardware monitor and look for the CPU temp. Here is the pic at 78C
trix.sexswap.com/goop/DSC00001.JPG.html

I took the new 1U off the shelf and gave it 10 minutes to cool down. I then removed the heat sink and inspected. The Gif Man enjoys the term "apply liberally".
trix.sexswap.com/goop/DSC00002.JPG.html

Now what I want you to notice is the imprint of the actual CPU core and you will see just how thin the material in that area. You can even see the hint of copper
trix.sexswap.com/goop/DSC00003.JPG.html

AND on the CPU you can totally see how 99.99% of the material has flowed off the CPU, leaving a very thin line. This is what I predicted would be happening in my email and was correct. This still does or does not prove whether the little items on the CPU need air to breath. I began cleaning the CPU with alcohol and even borrowed a Butcher Of Baghdad ultra small paint touch up 'dabber' to get into every crevace. I then put the CPU back in and painted a tiny layer with the dabber. This was thin and painted on, not globbed. I was frankly worried that there was not enough!
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I fired up the box and waited 10 minutes. It was time to pay the piper. I honestly said to myself "I'll be a monkey's uncle if there is any significant difference". I just could see that the tightness of the heat sink forces all unecessary material out and AIR is generally a very poor heat conductor and so globs touching the sink could have no ill effect I can think of.

YOU GOTTA GET UP PRETTY EARLY IN THE MORNING TO TAKE THE GIF MAN
hee hee haaa. It was a hella 78C
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I was very suprised that the temp was identical. I thought it might be 1-2 degrees different but nothing substancial.

CONCLUSION
1. don't believe everything you read on the web
2. choose either high amounts of goop, or minimal, it is up to you.

I prefer high because as you seat the chip, it is at and angle and end up not always in the right place and I can slide it a little when there is a lot. With minimal, you have to sit it down just right. The drawback to lots in "lots of clean up". Do you want to apply KY liberally or frugally? I prefer liberal...but that's just me :)

Great fun and I appreciate Joes links and info on this subject. My guess is that perhaps the radio shack goop was not that great or something else was going on. Most online tests show Artic silver the same or 2 degrees cooler than others. Great fun!

Joe writes:
Well, I'll be damned... :-) Heheh...BUT personaly I am still going to follow the directions to the letter from the arctic silver people, I don't want any microscopic silver chips shorting my L1 bridges out If I stick too much goop on my core. :-)

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WES AND THE LADS AT UIA SEND OVER HARWARE
I got a package from Karl the UPS man and inside were some fun 1U toys! Wes the ISP
www.uia.net
got his minion 'young Johnathan', to send over two excellent items. Let me first say "Thanks Wes and Johnathan!". Wes sent over another model 1U heat sink with fan and this is the Elan model I showed a photo of a couple of weeks a go. The fins are all brass
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and the fan shoots the air sideways.
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I remember Elan as a kid since they made downhill skis. I had a pair of Elan Ballets. I think this is the same company...too bad they got sucked in and made a goofy flash site...what a pain in the ass to find anything
www.elanskis.com/index_ski5.html

Wes also sent over the very rare and sought after 100ATA round IDE cable...slick!
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there are those 80 tiny wires
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I decided it would be a great third test after the goop test to try this new fan and wires out. I removed the current fan and one very neat thing was that there was nothing to clean since I used Joe's sparse application method in test 2. Check how clean these are!
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I would have to say that the clean up has got me leaning Joe's way little more now :) Here is where I start to get worried....Wes's fan unit is about 70% of the size of the Don Bosco badboy unit I removed.
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I thought to myself "we are going to be experiencing thermal viscosity breakdown and I am going to be bugging Wes for a new CPU and mobo!" hee hee haaa. These tests have to be conducted in the name of science so I proceeded forward. One thing I love about this Elan unit is that it has one of the nice clips. You can actually install it without a screw driver and you then have far less risk of slipping and driving a hole in the mobo.
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I next added the new 100ATA cable.
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Now came the grief. The little stinking slimline CDROM has no jumpers. I tied booting once...no luck, it grabs primary. I tried moving the cable around so HD was first in line...no luck. After an hour or so I was getting pretty cranky and had to add back a seperate ribbon cable for the CDROM and just used the fancy cable on the HD. It was time for bootup. I expected that the new fan would not work as well. Let's see. First, before I started I did a quick check and the CPU was 81C. The room was hot. But it took a couple of hours to get things working with the cable juggling so my guess is it was closer to 79 - 80C with original fan. Results
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Wes's fan ran cooler! Suprising! It was not a hell of a lot cooler, but it was cooler none the same. After I took this pic it jumped to 78 and the other fan seems to run about 79...so you save 1-3 degrees C. Is it worth it? Sure, mainly since it has a better clip and is easier to install. it is 2X to 3X more pricey thought. he fan I used I think was $12 and I believe the Elan runs closer to $30. Here it is for $29.50 and Gtweb
www.gtweb.net/hw129.html

What does this all mean? I think it means three things
1. AMD chips run hot as hell
2. 1U fans have a hard time bringing such hot chips down to reasonable temperatures
3. As Wes would say "I wouldn't run Windows98 on an AMD" ...hee hee heeee

Well I think you can run more than win98 but for mission critical stuff, you are pushing the edge of the envalope. So fan the box has ran very well. I will continue to see if it can hold up or break :)

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PRIDE CHAMPIONSHIPS
Saturday! get ready to rent another mixed martial arts NO HOLD BARRED (except for 3) event!
www.pridefc.com/upcom/indx.html
now I will warn you that this one is not as big as some of them so it won't be a huge event. The one match I want to see it Herring vs Nogueira. I like Herring but feel this new lad from Brazil is just too damn skilled and will become #1.

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SOFTWARE HARDWARE BS
Craig the Programmer has been working his fingers to the bone on our mainstream project and he had this neat bit of info to send me
"MySQL is running at a whopping 222.916 queries per second"
very slick! We are running 600+ spiders that are pounding on the mysql DB. Great fun and tricky programming. Craig is working his magic. We still have a few performance hurdles to cross but the hardest ones are behind us.

Now on the upgrade front. I was disappointed last week when 2 events occured

1. the people I ordered a video card became CROOKS. remember that cool black and gold card ordered. Well the 800 number has been disconnected AND the emails bounce. Fortunately they did not charge my credit card. On an aside, online I now do all my charges with amex "Private Payments". They should call it "PRO-LEVEL CROOK CC HAMMER". I wrote about this early on but had trouble finding it. If you have an AMEX card and are worried online (I have had crooked sites jack up my card before)...well this is a slick little service where you CLICK a button and WHAM...you get like a STEALTHY one time use NEW amex number. So you never use your actual CC number...you use these mini pro-level numbers that only work one time so the crooks are THWARTED and can only run up one damn charge. It is pretty easy to use and might take me 2 minutes more to buy something online.
www26.americanexpress.com/privatepayments/info_page.jsp

2. and the second thing that did not work out as planned was that my new slick 1.2gig backdoor speed up chip from PowerLeap did not work on my crusty old P2B-LS :( boo hooo
www.powerleap.com/Products/iP3T.htm
it would of been so cool if it had worked. I am now stuck at a PII 400 or celery 366 and need another way to try and juice this last mobo up a bit. From this GOOGLE news post, I think I have a chance at overclocking to 950 since I have revision 1.03. You will have to copy and paste this link
groups.google.com/groups?q=P2B-LS&start=10&hl=en&group=alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus&rnum=16&selm=39C9CEF4.106B1DA3%40its.dtu.dk
I may give it a try if I can email the author for more info

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GURU-O-GIF CPU GARAGE SALE!
I tried to sell these to young Stel but he wanted to wait and see in the new year. I figured I would try and sell them one more time since they are only dropping in price by the second :) If you are interested, email me and if we work out a deal...send me some paypal and I will fedex. Here is what I got to sell and want to sell as a package so if you are an ISP, this might work well for your boxes

(1) PII 266 slot 1
(1) PII 333 slot 1
(1) PII 400 slot 1
(4) PIII 450 slot 1
(1) PIII 666 fcpga

$200 takes them ALL!

I priced them new and then took over 50% off and it was like $210....how does $200 takes them all and pay the fedex, payment by paypal. PIII450s are running $71+ new and the 666 is running $63+ new a so those alone would be $350+ tax and ship. All CPUs would include fan and heatsink...no wires. I would also toss in one or two extra heat sinks that I never used.

another offer. could you use a Seagate Cheetah Ultra SCSI 9 gig model
ST39103LC
it has a wierd plug and I have maybe used it once. I think I have an adapter plug around. this drive is selling for $130 - $200. Yours for $50
www.seagate.com/cda/products/discsales/marketing/detail/0,1121,32,00.html

take everything (HD and CPUS) for $240 ! I pay the ship (USA only please..payment by paypal only please). Email me if this is of interest. Please be aware that there is a healthy amount of DUST on some of these CPUs :)

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